O único segredo "palpável" descoberto no hack de 2006, Tibia e seu pseudo-RPG

[Alfonzo]

(...) Caso já tenha resolvido alguma delas, sinta-se a vontade pra provar que o "desafio rpgístico" realmente está presente no jogo.

O desafio rpgístico é vencer os desafios apresentados pelo jogo de forma honesta dentro do jogo só com os recursos nele.

No momento que vocês estão em posse de uma informação roubada de uma empresa, e usam ela para burlar o mecanismo do jogo e obter vantagens, vocês se tornam trapaceiros que fracassaram em jogar o RPG.

Não só não cabe a mim provar que não é possível um personagem controlado pelo jogador obter um item que se localiza fora do alcance mecânico de obtenção dele por esse personagem, como vejo sua tentativa de me fazer revelar segredos e respostas para os desafios do jogo.


Sugiro lerem o verbete "Lenda" no Wikipedia. Em um jogo rico em narrativas e histórias de fundo, lendas se fazem presentes. Tudo isso que vocês consideram "inalcançável" são lendas. Redundantes, portanto.

E pra completar: São vocês que falharam com o RPG do Tibia.

[mago nobre]

Como Nikolai Bazarov bem expôs, a vida não é preto e branco. Muitas vezes as figuras de herói e vilão se misturam. Não sei se já assistiu, mas há um seriado que explora amplamente essa questão: Breaking Bad. Melhor seriado que assisti.

É por isso mesmo que ainda não acredito em ambas as partes envolvidas nessa história, nem que o cara não alterou os arquivos antes de divulgar mesmo ele afirmando que não o fez, nem que a Cipsoft deixou pra lá e não fez acordo nenhum porque nada que foi hackeado prejudicaria o andamento do jogo, acho que ainda existem fatos omitidos, mas...

Melhor mesmo é esquecer essa historia e cada um aproveitar o jogo da forma que achar melhor, quem curte buscar mistérios no jogo que o faça, já quem perdeu a esperança continue caçando...

Sim, já assisti Breaking Bad, mas só a primeira temporada, prefiro series tipo Murdoch Mysteries.

Abraço!

[Parcialinred]

Mas não percam as esperanças, rpgistas. Pode ser que neste momento os bravos alemães da Cip estejam programando e implementando várias dessas quests que na época do hackeamento não estavam prontas.

[Supreme'Major]

Vou ser sincero em relação a uma coisa aqui...sabe o porque de tanta indagação aqui no fórum sobre o tema?? Pq a maioria das pessoas aqui tem P-R-E-G-U-I-Ç-A de pesquisar algo ou correr atrás de informações pra saber o que é ou o que não é....
A história do Mulf é um exemplo disso: não sei quantas vezes já vi gente falando de Mulf isso e Mulf aquilo, pq ele fez a quest da Silver Mace e tem foto, que ele tinha item x e y na época que nem existia...mas só o que sabem pesquisar é a famosa SS colagem dele e a entrevista, e mais nada...Galera, única golden boots POR MUITO TEMPO no tibia pertencia ao Sir Baxter em NOVA, que por sua vez comprou de não lembro quem (uma pessoa que reportou um bug foderengo)...outra coisa que ninguém para pra pensar: Quem falou que todos os itens estavam em servidores originais?? Naquela época já exitia SIM OTservs. Outra coisa, quem não garante que aquilo era item em Test Servers?? Quem é mais antigo sabe que os Tests Servers antigamente eram locura demais e direto os GM além de summonar monstros que ATÉ HOJE não deram nem as caras, saiam dropando itens no chão...
Vou colar o que disse em outro tópico a um tempo atrás sobre o MULF:
Outra coisa, já falei antes pro pessoal mas enfim...Mulf teve muitos rares? Sim! Jogava bem? Sim! Ficou famoso? Sim! Desvendou todas essas quests? NÃO!!!
Eu jogo em Antica e tenho amigos MUITO antigos no jogo e boa parte com quem conversei já falou sobre o Mulf, que ele era nada além de um grande comerciante no mercado negro...dessa forma conseguiu muitos rares....
Não estou dizendo que ele não tenha desvendado nenhuma quest, mas essas que só ele e mais ninguém nunca mais fez é quase que conclusivo que ele não desvendou coisa nenhuma e quis se promover...

Sobre as quests:
Existiram lugares que antes eram acessíveis e hoje ou não são mais ou não existem? Opa se teve, muitos...mas tais lugares foram excluídos após uma GRANDE NECESSIDADE...secret sheep level? Ficou conhecido depois que o Pepelu e o Halfhigh mostraram as fotos, e por ser um lugar relativamente calmo, era muito usado por gente com MC e Rune Farm...
A salinha com o scroll e a magic light wand na troll cave leste? Simplesmente não havia mais necessidade de acesso ali depois que implementaram a compra de spells (caso não saibam, lá era a quest para o scroll da magia "utevo lux").
Fora isso, não vejo pq a Cipsoft iria "diminuir" seu mapa e acessos, sendo que a cada update só se aumenta o mapa...
Agora que a coisa a respeito dos leaks das quests foi desanimador na época, orra se não foi...
POI foi uma revolta, Firlefanz foi outra, adição da demon legs numa quest como a Demon Oak também é outra...infelizmente não faltam exemplos da Cipsoft que esse é o caminho que a Cipsoft usa com todos os lugares e quests misteriosas.
Um dos exemplos mais recentes é a Mysterious Ornate Chest Quest: Claro que na época foi um bafafá e todos ficaram muito animados com todas a possibilidades que tal descoberta trouxe, que então todas as outras quests também poderiam ser desvendadas...maaas acabou que a quest na verdade não estava completa (e nem parece estar perto de terminar) e cada pedaço é adicionado a cada update.

É isso ae galera!!
Bom jogo a todos!

[Lord-Sesshoumaru]

# GIMUD - Graphical Interface Multi User Dungeon
# bansheequeen.npc: Datenbank für die Bansheequeen

Name = "The Queen of the Banshee"
Sex = female
Race = 1
Outfit = (78,0-0-0-0)
Home = [32260,31863,14]
Radius = 6
GoStrength = 25

Behaviour = {
ADDRESS,"hello$",! -> "Be greeted, dear visitor. Come and stay ... a while."
ADDRESS,"hi$",! -> *
ADDRESS,! -> Idle
BUSY,"hello$",! -> "Wait as patiently as death is waiting for you!"
BUSY,"hi$",! -> *
BUSY,! -> NOP
VANISH,! -> "Yes, flee from death. But know it shall be always one step behind you."


"bye" -> "We will meet again.", Idle
"farewell" -> *

"name" -> "It hurts me to even think about my mortal past. Its long lost and forgotten. So don't ask me about it!"
"job" -> "It is my curse to be the eternal guardian of this ancient place."
"place" -> "It served as a temple, a source of power and ... as a sender for an ancient race in time long gone by and forgotten."
"race" -> "The race that built this edifice came to this place from the stars. They ran from an enemy even more horrible than even themselves. But they carried the seed of their own destruction in them."
"seed" -> "This ancient race was annihilated by its own doings, that's all I know. Aeons have passed since then, but the sheer presence of this complex is still defiling and desecrating this area."
"destruction" -> *
"complex" -> "Its constructors were too strange for you or even me to understand. We cannot know what this ... thing they have built was supposed to be good for. All I can feel is a constant twisting and binding of souls, though that is probably only a side-effect."
"ghostlands" -> "The place you know as the Ghostlands had a different name once ... and many names thereafter. Too many for me to remember them all."
"banshee" -> "They are my maidens. They give me comfort in my eternal vigil over the last seal."
"seal" -> "I am the guardian of the SEVENTH and final seal. The seal to open the last door before ... but perhaps it is better you see it with your own eyes."
"guardian" -> *
"seventh",level<60,! -> "You are not experienced enough to master the challenges ahead or to receive knowledge about the seventh seal. Go and learn more before asking me again."
"seventh",level>59,! -> "If you have passed the first six seals and entered the blue fires that lead to the chamber of the seal you might receive my kiss ... It will open the last seal. Do you think you are ready?", topic=2
"last" -> *

"kiss",PZBlock,! -> "You have spilled too much blood recently and the dead are hungry for your soul. Perhaps return when you regained you inner balance."

"kiss",topic=8 , QuestValue(11) < 1 -> "Are you prepared to receive my kiss, even though this will mean that your death as well as a part of your soul will forever belong to me, my dear?", Topic=1

"kiss", QuestValue(11) > 0 -> "You have already received my kiss. You should know better then to ask for it."
"kiss" -> "To receive my kiss you have to pass all other seals first."
"yes",topic=1 -> "So be it! Hmmmmmm...",SetQuestValue(11,1),SetQuestValue(12,Q uestValue(12)+1),Teleport(32202,31812,8), EffectOpp(14)
"no",topic=1 -> "Perhaps it is the better choice for you, my dear."

"yes",topic=2,QuestValue(4)=1 -> "Yessss, I can sense you have passed the seal of sacrifice. Have you passed any other seal yet?", topic=3
"yes",topic=2,QuestValue(4)<1 -> "You have not passed the seal of sacrifice yet. Return to me when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=2 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."

"yes",topic=3,QuestValue(5)=1 -> "I sense you have passed the hidden seal as well. Have you passed any other seal yet?", topic=4
"yes",topic=3,QuestValue(5)<1 -> "You have not found the hidden seal yet. Return when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=3 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."


"yes",topic=4,QuestValue(6)=1 -> "Oh yes, you have braved the plagueseal. Have you passed any other seal yet?", topic=5
"yes",topic=4,QuestValue(6)<1 -> "You have not faced the plagueseal yet. Return to me when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=4 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."


"yes",topic=5,QuestValue(7)=1 -> "Ah, I can sense the power of the seal of demonrage burning in your heart. Have you passed any other seal yet?", topic=6
"yes",topic=5,QuestValue(7)<1 -> "You are not filled with the fury of the imprisoned demon. Return when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=5 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."

"yes",topic=6,QuestValue(9)=1 -> "So, you have managed to pass the seal of the true path. Have you passed any other seal yet?", topic=7
"yes",topic=6,QuestValue(9)<1 -> "You have not found your true path yet. Return when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=6 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."

"yes",topic=7,QuestValue(10)=1 -> "I see! You have mastered the seal of logic. You have made the sacrifice, you have seen the unseen, you possess fortitude, you have filled yourself with power and found your path. You may ask me for my kiss now.", topic=8
"yes",topic=7,QuestValue(10)<1 -> "You have not found your true path yet. Return to meh when you are better prepared."
"no",topic=7 -> "Then try to be better prepared next time we meet."



"spectral","dress" -> "Your wish for a spectral dress is silly. Allthough I will grant you the permission to take one. My maidens left one in a box in a room, directly south of here.",SetQuestValue(327,1)
}

Não achei nada sobre falar spectral dress pra Banshee, alguém ja tentou? Tem uma ação que seta valor de quest


Edit: Explorer society, nvm

[~CØ¥ØT~]

Arquivo relacionado ao Demon, no jogo:

# Tibia - graphical Multi-User-Dungeon
# MonsterRace File
# 2005/10/12 - 16:37:51

RaceNumber = 35
Name = "demon"
Article = "a"
Outfit = (35, 0-0-0-0)
Corpse = 4097
Blood = Fire
Experience = 6000
SummonCost = 0
FleeThreshold = 0
Attack = 80
Defend = 65
Armor = 40
Poison = 0
LoseTarget = 10
Strategy = (70, 10, 10, 10)

Flags = {KickBoxes,
KickCreatures,
SeeInvisible,
Unpushable,
NoSummon,
NoIllusion,
NoConvince,
NoBurning,
NoPoison,
NoEnergy,
NoLifeDrain,
NoParalyze}

Skills = {(HitPoints, 8200, 0, 8200, 0, 0, 0),
(GoStrength, 80, 0, 80, 0, 0, 0),
(CarryStrength, 800, 0, 800, 0, 0, 0),
(FistFighting, 120, 120, 120, 50, 1000, 5)}

Spells = {Actor (13) -> Healing (120, 30) : 7,
Victim (7, 0, 0) -> Damage (512, 70, 30) : 8,
Origin (0, 13) -> Summon (49, 1) : 12,
Destination (7, 4, 6, 7) -> Damage (4, 155, 45) : 3,
Destination (7, 4, 0, 0) -> Field (1) : 7,
Angle (0, 8, 12) -> Damage (8, 360, 60) : 10}

Inventory = {(3420, 1, 7),
(3356, 1, 12),
(3275, 1, 200),
(3320, 1, 40),
(3731, 6, 200),
(3281, 1, 20),
(3031, 100, 700),
(3031, 100, 600),
(3031, 100, 500),
(3031, 100, 400),
(3063, 1, 11),
(3364, 1, 4),
(3306, 1, 15),
(3284, 1, 6),
(3366, 1, 1),
(3414, 1, 5),
(3048, 1, 2),
(3060, 1, 30),
(3055, 1, 7),
(2848, 1, 13),
(3098, 1, 5),
(3032, 1, 110),
(3049, 1, 14),
(3034, 1, 35)}

Talk = {"#Y MUHAHAHAHA!",
"#Y I SMELL FEEEEEAAAR!",
"#Y CHAMEK ATH UTHUL ARAK!",
"Your resistance is futile!",
"#y Your soul will be mine!"}

[Lord-Sesshoumaru]

# GIMUD - Graphical Interface Multi User Dungeon
# djema.npc: Datenbank für die Bibliothekarin Djema

Name = "Djema"
Sex = female
Race = 1
Outfit = (136,77-9-86-131)
Home = [33101,32520,3]
Radius = 2
GoStrength = 10

Behaviour = {

ADDRESS,"hello$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> "Wow! A human? Here? Hey? Where do you come from, %N? Oh, I'm so excited!"
ADDRESS,"hi$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
ADDRESS,"greetings$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
ADDRESS,"djanni'hah$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
ADDRESS,! -> Idle
BUSY,"hello$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> "Another human?! Please don't go away! Stay! Please wait a minute, %N!", Queue
BUSY,"hi$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
BUSY,"greetings$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
BUSY,"djanni'hah$",QuestValue(278)=2,! -> *
BUSY,! -> NOP
VANISH,! -> "Please don't go!"

"bye" -> "Aww - you really have to leave so soon? You must come and visit me again. Please - promise me!", Idle
"farewell" -> *
"name" -> "My name is Djema. Daddy says it means 'Moonflower' in the old language."
"djem" -> "That is my name. I do not like it much, though. Everybody around here calls me Djem."
"job" -> "I am the librarian in this place. I don't like the work too much because we do not really have that many books, and most of them are written by people who have died thousands of years ago. ...",
"If dad wanted me to have a job to keep me entertained that was a real non-starter."
"librarian" -> "Yes. I administrate the library. You know - registering new books, sorting them in alphabetical order etc. ...",
"To be honest I am not very good in this. Thank goodness daddy gave that magical blackboard to me. It is quite useful."
"gabel" -> "Gabel is my father. He runs this place. Of course, he is not my real daddy. But he adopted me, you know. Or rather, all the Marid adopted me."
"father" -> *
"dad" -> *
"parents" -> "I can't remember them. I... They have both died a long time. At least that is what I have been told. Listen, can we talk about something else?"
"marid" -> "The djinn you have met call themselves the Marid. They are generally very nice. Nice, but boring."
"djinn" -> "The djinn are a curious race. They are nice, but they are always so serious. Oh, don't get me wrong, there is not a single djinn around here I do not like, but, you know, they are not much fun. ...",
"I guess that is because they are all such devout followers of Daraman, but perhaps it is just because of all the bad things that have happened."
"daraman" -> "Daraman was a human, but he must have been something very special - he was a holy man. To this day daddy and all the other djinn around here look up to Daraman as a true prophet."

"king" -> "Officially there is no king of the djinn. Daddy used to hold the title, but he has chosen to put if off. Of course, he is still the undisputed leader of the Marid. He simply dislikes the title."
"efreet" -> "Apparently the greenskins are different from the Marid who have raised me. I don't know. Perhaps the Efreet would be more fun than the djinn around here, but then daddy says they are really evil."
"malor" -> "Malor is the leader of the Efreet. I have never seen him, but they say he is really nasty. Daddy always gets upset when this name is pronounced."
"mal'ouquah" -> "Oh, that place. They say it is pure evil. But I don't think it looks that evil. I have seen the dark fortress once, you know?!"
"dark", "fortress" -> "One night I went there. I wanted to see it for myself. Don't tell daddy, though. He would freak out if he heard I was there."
"ashta'daramai" -> "That's what this place is called. Sure, it is beautiful, but it is as also boring and sometimes downright depressing. Sometimes I feel like I am bound to this place by golden chains."
"human" -> "I have lived here for as long as I can remember, but I know I don't belong here. I belong to them! I am a human! One day I will leave this place, and I will never come back."
"zathroth" -> "Yes, I have heard his name before. Let's see... Yes, I have read his name in a book! It was a book about gods and creation. Pretty weird stuff."
"tibia" -> "Daddy has often told me about how huge and mysterious this world is. <Sighs> How much I would like to see it all. But he won't let me go. ...",
"I have read books about the northern continent inhabited by thousands and thousands of people. Ordinary humans just like you and me! Imagine that!"
"darashia" -> "Darashia is a beautiful city to the north. I have been there! One day Daddy disguised himself, and he took me there. It was awesome. ...",
"There was so much life and colour and excitement... <Sighs> I suppose he did it because he knew how much I yearned to go there. Bless him - he only wanted to help. But after that I felt worse than ever."
"edron" -> "I have read all about the northern cities. It is almost as if I had been there myself."
"thais" -> *
"venore" -> *
"kazordoon" -> *
"carlin" -> *
"ab'dendriel" -> *
"ankrahmun" -> "If there is one city I don't want to see it is Ankrahmun. I have heard all kinds of stories about the pharaoh and his cult of weirdos!"
"scarab" -> "Ah, those nasty critters. They give me the creeps!"

"pharaoh" -> "Apparently he is an undead! Yuk - how disgusting!"
"palace" -> "I do not care just how beautiful the pharaoh's palace is. I will never go there. The minute I would see some undead pile of flesh I would dash for the door screaming."
"ascension" -> "I have heard that term before. Has to do with the pharaoh's cult, I think, but I do not know for sure, and I'm not particularly eager to learn more about it."
"akh'rah" -> "Hm. No - doesn't ring a bell."
"uthun" -> *
"akh" -> *

"kha'zeel" -> "I don't know whether I should hate or love these mountains. I mean, they are so beautiful. If only you saw those peaks in the evening, when the sun is setting. It is like a thousand fires that set the horizon aglow. ...",
"But... ah, I don't know. I think I would give it all away if I could live somewhere among my own kind."
"kha'labal" -> "That is the huge desert to the east. You can see it from here if you look in the direction of the rising sun. It seems huge... endless... It makes my heart sink whenever I watch it."
"war" -> "Daddy and all the other djinn around here are so restive lately. I know they try not to show it, but I can sense that they are tense and perhaps even a bit afraid. ...",
"To be honest I am sick of being patronised. I am a grown-up woman now, and I don't need anybody else's protection anymore!"
"melchior" -> "Hm. I think I have heard that name before. A human, wasn't it? I think he used to drop quite often when I was much younger, but I have no clear memory of him. ...",
"I think he has not visited Ashta'Daramai for a long time."
"alesar" -> "I have never known this djinn, but apparently there is some sad story behind this. Daddy is very sad that Alesar left us. Of course, he tries not to show, but as usual he does a bad job about it."
"lamp" -> "When I was still a kid I could not understand how it could be that I was not able to sleep in a lamp. ...",
"That was when I wanted nothing more than to be like the people around me. <Sighs> I may see things a bit more clearly now, but the feeling of yearning remains."
"fa'hradin" -> "Uncle Fad is a weird guy. He is incredibly intelligent, but he is also totally inept in worldly matters. Sometimes I feel he is not quite at home in this world."
"fa'hradin","lamp" -> "I have heard many a story about this artifact. It was used to trap that Malor guy. Clever idea of good old uncle Fa'hradin."
"book" -> "The books around here are not exactly what I would call a riveting read. Most of them are technical documents written by uncle Fad at some point or other. Now and then he turns up and brings new files. Not that anybody would ever read them. ...",
"It is my job to make sure they are filed and registered."
#"blackboard" -> "Yes! All books we have are listed in it! The whole library! And the best thing is that whenever a new book is added or one is removed the list is updated by magic. Isn't that great! Take a look!"
#"magical","blackboard" -> *
#"spy" -> "Yes! There was a spy! I have seen him! He was over there, right next to the door. When I came in he just slipped out. It was an Efreet! His green skin gave him away!"
#"fr 0457", QuestValue (###)=### -> "fr 0457? Missing? Let me see? Hey, you are right. It is not on the list. Could it be?","Daraman have mercy! You're right! The file is gone! The spy must have stolen it. Oh dear. What am I to do now?","Quick! Go and tell uncle Fa'hradin. He will know what to do!", SetQuestValue (###)=###
}

já que a cipsoft como todos já comentaram tem mania de deixar quests por fazer soltas, será que essa sessão comentada da npc Djema já foi implementada?

Edit: NPC é bibliotecária de Blue Djinn Fortress

[~CØ¥ØT~]

Tá aí que pode ter passado despercebido, Lord-Sesshoumaru. Meu char tá free e ando sem tempo pra averiguar, mas tudo indica que esse dialogo não está listado em nenhuma quest já conhecida. Vale lembrar também que pode ser algo que já foi removido, mas vale a pena averiguar.

[Lord-Sesshoumaru]

Todos os NPC's que possuem a palavra 'Quest' nos seus scripts: (vou conferi-los)
alesar.npc
alia.npc
amanda.npc
angus.npc
baaleal.npc
bansheequeen.npc
benjamin.npc
blindprophet.npc
boques.npc
brewster.npc
brodrosch.npc
captain1.npc
captain2.npc
captain3.npc
captain4.npc
captain5.npc
captain6.npc
captain7.npc
charles.npc
chatterbone.npc
chemar.npc
chrystal.npc
cobra.npc
costello.npc
dermot.npc
djema.npc
dove.npc
edala.npc
elvith.npc
eremo.npc
etzel.npc
explorer.ndb
fahradin.npc
faluae.npc
ferrymanjack.npc
gabel.npc
gen-post.ndb
gen-t-wands-free-s.ndb
gen-t-wands-prem-s.ndb
gen-xmas.ndb
gurbasch.npc
hairycles.npc
haroun.npc
hugo.npc
humphrey.npc
kasmir.npc
kawill.npc
kevin.npc
kroox.npc
lea.npc
liane.npc
lokur.npc
lubo.npc
lynda.npc
maealil.npc
malor.npc
markwin.npc
marvik.npc
maryza.npc
melchior.npc
mortimer.npc
muriel.npc
myra.npc
nahbob.npc
noodles.npc
norf.npc
olddragon.npc
oldrak.npc
olrik.npc
orcking.npc
padreia.npc
partos.npc
pemaret.npc
pino.npc
prisoner.npc
pydar.npc
queen.npc
quentin.npc
rahkem.npc
ratamari.npc
riddler.npc
sam.npc
shalmar.npc
smiley.npc
stranger.npc
talphion.npc
teste.py
tom.npc
tothdral.npc
ubaid.npc
umar.npc
ustan.npc
uzgod.npc
uzon.npc
wally.npc
windtrouser.npc
yaman.npc
yberius.npc
zoltan.npc

[Allison S.]

@Lord-Sesshoumaru
eu agradeço sua intenção em postar transcrições pois eu realmente não vou fazer download nem abrir o forum do ot e estarei aqui sempre pra te dar like (me cobra caso eu esqueça) como incentivo para mais postagens pois tenho interesse em o máximo de diálogos possíveis pra atualizar o tibiawiki então que tal organizar por cidades os npcs pra facilitar as discussões e analise do conteúdo?