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    Citação Postado originalmente por Zwarte Kaas Ver Post
    wasent that a part of the quest???

    an obvious question.... have you placed skulls on tiles?
    That was my initial plan. I'm not sure if these tiles are a part of the quest. I'll complete the Dracona quest today.

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    Citação Postado originalmente por S0urce Ver Post
    That was my initial plan. I'm not sure if these tiles are a part of the quest. I'll complete the Dracona quest today.
    tested it.
    Talons dont work eather..

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    Citação Postado originalmente por Zwarte Kaas Ver Post
    tested it.
    Talons dont work eather..
    I also tried, didn't work. While being there I also noticed that there are, on the same floor, a total of 17 tiles that does not work (4x4 + 1 single tile). On Draconia there are a total of 11 fresh dragon corpses, 5 dragons and 1 dragon lord - which adds up to 17 dragons. I wanted to try to put 16 green dragon corpses on the 4x4 area and the 1 dragon lord corpse on the single tile - but I wasn't fast enough. The dragons decayed. A theory would be to travel all around Tibia and drag dragon corpses that doesnt decay to the Sacrificial Stone in Ab'dendriel and teleport them to Draconia.

    A player, who spend a shit lot of time in Draconia, noticed an added 'empty vial' spawn on that floor. Another theory would be to use a lot of vials of blood (on skulls?) or oil on all tiles to make them work?
    Última edição por S0urce; 04-06-2018 às 16:30.

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    Citação Postado originalmente por S0urce Ver Post
    I also tried, didn't work. While being there I also noticed that there are, on the same floor, a total of 17 tiles that does not work (4x4 + 1 single tile). On Draconia there are a total of 11 fresh dragon corpses, 5 dragons and 1 dragon lord - which adds up to 17 dragons. I wanted to try to put 16 green dragon corpses on the 4x4 area and the 1 dragon lord corpse on the single tile - but I wasn't fast enough. The dragons decayed. A theory would be to travel all around Tibia and drag dragon corpses that doesnt decay to the Sacrificial Stone in Ab'dendriel and teleport them to Draconia.

    A player, who spend a shit lot of time in Draconia, noticed an added 'empty vial' spawn on that floor. Another theory would be to use a lot of vials of blood (on skulls?) or oil on all tiles to make them work?
    Well, i noticed 1 switch is not being used. while doing quest.
    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=en

    While doing Quest i noticed some push down tiles work and some not. See screenshot above. where player is standing that push-down tile works. while the one north of it does not.

    And i got the book from the quest.

    Be cruel to conquer
    Be bold to impress
    Be even to pass
    Be fearless to kill

    Maby the poem that Ava tar likes?

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    Finalmente li todo o tópico, levei cerca de um dia.
    Creio que as idéias estejam mais frescas em minha mente e, vocês se desviaram de muitos caminhos quando um ou outro lançavam teorias aqui...
    O número pode significar uma letra, uma palavra ou sílaba, isso é certeza, acho dificil encontrar um significado se ficarmos separando os números de dois em dois, tendo em vista que como a Chaynne escreveu era diferente dos espaçamentos que o Knightmare escreveu. A entrevista com ela foi em 2009, e a dele foi em 2015, acho que houve uma mudança de pensamento entre essa época, ainda mais que o "Mago Nobre" provou que o que ela disse foi pega do livro 19.

    Vi muitos pontos de vista, e hoje começarei a formar algo.
    Acho interessante irmos lá nos locais e vermos na prática, agora que temos esse conhecimento, podemos notar algo, certo?






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    Boa tarde!

    São 15 livros dos 71 disponivéis na biblioteca do Hellgate que contém essa sequência:

    5727857261185764.

    Em tese esses livros tratam do mesmo assunto ou talvez sejam um só, 15 livros que formam um...

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    Última edição por mago nobre; 05-06-2018 às 14:08.

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    Mathematics, maybe Knightmare took inspiration from this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZHsk0-eF0
    It wouldn't surprise me that we unlock something with musical instruments.

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    Let's talk about Mathemagic and another way to think about the solution

    Donald and Mathemagic (as S0urce posted) is base about Golden Rule and Fibonacci.

    Golden Rule is a natural proportion that you can find in a lot of things, like Trees, Flowers, Insects, etc. And, what is that?

    the sum of previous with themself is the next number or, mathematic speaking, Fibonacci sequence, that start with 1;

    1 + 1 = 2 + 1 = 3 + 2 = 5 + 3 = 8 + 5 = 13 . . . .

    So, What is the Beholder Language name? 469
    Check the bolder number, 3 5 8, add one for each and . . . 3+1 = 4, 5+1 = 6, 8+1 = 9 = ABC

    Now the answer about why Tibia is called 1?
    1 is the initial sequence of Fibonacci, 1 is the principle, the start, the World.

    and 0 is out of sequence, it is like a blasfemy, because it doens't belongs to the golden rule.

    469 probably is the initial sequence of ABC, but in that way there is two possibilities

    1)
    The diference between 4 - 6 = 2, 6 - 9 = 3, so the next will be 9 + 4 = 13, 13 + 5 = 18 ...
    That comes with

    4 6 9 13 18 24 31 39 48 58 69 81 94 108 123 139 156 174 193 213 234 256 279 303 328 354
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

    2)
    Using Fibonacci sequence but adding +1 for each number, so 3+1 = 4, 5+1, 8 + 1, 13 + 1 . . .
    That comes with
    4 6 9 14 22 35 56 90 145 234 378 611 988 1598 2585 4181 6765 10947 17712 28658 46369 75026 121394 196419 317812 514230
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


    And, the last thing: 3478

    as NPC said: A Wrinkled Bonelord:: In our language the name of our race is not fixed but a complex formula, and as such it always changes for the subjective viewer.

    3478 is probably the key to translate the alphabet, it is a complex formula. The 3478 doens't show in any of that books, only Knighmare said that:
    3478 67 90871 97664 3466 0 345!

    a possible translate is like
    3478 is the key of fucking world!
    or
    3478 are the kings of tibia!

    I think the path to find the solution is try to transform 67 in is or are using Fibonacci sequence.

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    Com base no que o Davix disse, foi a coisa mais interessante que eu li nesse tópico e com os pensamentos que de que um número pode significar uma letra, uma palavra ou sílaba.
    Vi que estávamos "presos" em alguns números, como por exemplo, não podiamos achar o "67" nessa formula, então tentei somar A com B, subtrair, etc... ainda não cheguei em algo concreto, porém notei, por exemplo que Q + R = S
    Q = 6765
    R = 10947
    S = 17712
    Q + R = 17712
    As vezes que encontrei subtraindo um número a menos que o outro, as vezes dois.
    Não sei se faz sentido, mas resolvi colocar aqui caso enxerguem algo á mais.

    |A + B = 10------ |A = 4------ |A - B = 2 |
    |B + C = 15------ |B = 6------ |B - C = 3 |
    |C + D = 25------ |C = 9------ |C - D = 5 |
    |D + E = 36------ |D = 14------ |D - E = 8 |
    |E + F = 47------ |E = 22------ |E - F = 13 |
    |F + G = 91------ |F = 35------ |F - G = 21 |
    |G + H = 146----- |G = 56------ |G - H = 34 |
    |H + I = 235----- |H = 90------ |H - I = 55 |
    |I + J = 379----- |I = 145----- |I - J = 89 |
    |J + K = 416----- |J = 234----- |J - K = 144 |
    |K + L = 989----- |K = 378----- |K - L = 233 |
    |L + M = 1599---- |L = 611----- |L - M = 378 |
    |M + N = 2586----- |M = 988---- |M - N = 610 |
    |N + O = 4183---- |N = 1598---- |N - O = 987 |
    |O + P = 6766---- |O = 2585---- |O - P = 1596 |
    |P + Q = 10946--- |P = 4181---- |P - Q = 2584 |
    |Q + R = 17712--- |Q = 6765---- |Q - R = 4182 |
    |R + S = 28659--- |R = 10947--- |R - S = 6765 |
    |S + T = 46370--- |S = 17712--- |S - T = 10946 |
    |T + U = 75027--- |T = 28658--- |T - U = 17711 |
    |U + V = 121395-- |U = 46369--- |U - V = 28657 |
    |V + W = 196420-- |V = 75026--- |V - W = 46368 |
    |W + X = 317813-- |W = 121394-- |W - X = 75025 |
    |X + Y = 514231-- |X = 196419-- |X - Y = 121393 |
    |Y + Z = 832042-- |Y = 317812-- |Y - Z = 196418 |
    |Z + A = 514234-- |Z = 514230-- |Z - A = 514228 |

    Não saiu reto como estava, mas dá para entender.
    Última edição por LCKstrike; 05-06-2018 às 22:56.

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    Citação Postado originalmente por Davix Ver Post
    Let's talk about Mathemagic and another way to think about the solution

    Donald and Mathemagic (as S0urce posted) is base about Golden Rule and Fibonacci.

    Golden Rule is a natural proportion that you can find in a lot of things, like Trees, Flowers, Insects, etc. And, what is that?

    the sum of previous with themself is the next number or, mathematic speaking, Fibonacci sequence, that start with 1;

    1 + 1 = 2 + 1 = 3 + 2 = 5 + 3 = 8 + 5 = 13 . . . .

    So, What is the Beholder Language name? 469
    Check the bolder number, 3 5 8, add one for each and . . . 3+1 = 4, 5+1 = 6, 8+1 = 9 = ABC

    Now the answer about why Tibia is called 1?
    1 is the initial sequence of Fibonacci, 1 is the principle, the start, the World.

    and 0 is out of sequence, it is like a blasfemy, because it doens't belongs to the golden rule.

    469 probably is the initial sequence of ABC, but in that way there is two possibilities

    1)
    The diference between 4 - 6 = 2, 6 - 9 = 3, so the next will be 9 + 4 = 13, 13 + 5 = 18 ...
    That comes with

    4 6 9 13 18 24 31 39 48 58 69 81 94 108 123 139 156 174 193 213 234 256 279 303 328 354
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

    2)
    Using Fibonacci sequence but adding +1 for each number, so 3+1 = 4, 5+1, 8 + 1, 13 + 1 . . .
    That comes with
    4 6 9 14 22 35 56 90 145 234 378 611 988 1598 2585 4181 6765 10947 17712 28658 46369 75026 121394 196419 317812 514230
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


    And, the last thing: 3478

    as NPC said: A Wrinkled Bonelord:: In our language the name of our race is not fixed but a complex formula, and as such it always changes for the subjective viewer.

    3478 is probably the key to translate the alphabet, it is a complex formula. The 3478 doens't show in any of that books, only Knighmare said that:
    3478 67 90871 97664 3466 0 345!

    a possible translate is like
    3478 is the key of fucking world!
    or
    3478 are the kings of tibia!

    I think the path to find the solution is try to transform 67 in is or are using Fibonacci sequence.
    I found 3478 repeated 14 times in the books, but many of the other numbers which he said, such as 97664, does not show up in the books. I also noticed that 888 is the only number which has 3 repeated digits.

    It's almost impossible to decrypt a lot of lines of numbers without any sort of confirmed translations or access to any kind of supercomputer. If we are going to use 'brute force' - trying different numbers combined with letters - we have to find the hints in game and use them to create a theory and then use it to solve the code. Because otherwise we will be stuck with an infinite possible ways to track the code - and that's an infinite too much to deal with!

    To my understanding, we're not 100% sure what 469 actually means? The 469 could be a reference to 369, a number Nicolas Tesla seemed to obsessed with. “If you only knew the magnificence of the three, the six and the nine… then you would have a key to the universe.”
    -Nikola Tesla
    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEWOYKgI4o

    The 469 could also be a reference to a cypher machine called Enigma, do you recognize the number?
    Link: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...st_3_rotor.jpg

    If that would be the case, it will not be easy to crack the code. For all we know, it may look like this:

    [BOOK CODE] --- KEY --- [SPOKEN CODE] --- KEY --- ENGLISH


    Knightmare:*The orc language was an early quest device. Admittedly, probably too complicated and spoiler vulnerable for a closed environment like Rookgaard but it was very basic. Even the stuff the orc monsters are saying had (partly) some meaning but most of it was never formally written down and it would be rather hard even for me to reconstruct it. The beholder language is a completely different issue though. We hired an actual beholder to write down texts for us. It resides still in the company basement and refuses to leave. The screaming of the dwarfs we have to feed him once a day haunts us even in our dreams. The worst thing is we have no means to tell if the beholder actually wrote down what we dictated him. Chances are his texts are some tasteless jokes and bad beholder poetry. Yet no one in the office had the guts to voice our doubts towards the beholder. Have you ever heard of the CipSoft employee Hans Christian Strakeldum? No? We neither after he went down into the cellar to tell the beholder to stop whistling that loud ...
    From above interview of Knightmare, TibiaBR 2010, one could wonder if he's giving hints about the beholder language (I marked it in bold);
    1. Maybe Cipsoft hired a professional to create the Mathemagics and it's actually - compared to the orc language - a serious constructed language.
    2. Could "Hans Christian Strakeldum" be a reference to Hans Christian Andersen? More important, are his stories of good use to understand the beholder language?
    3. "whistling that loud"? A joke or an important hint?

    NPC Knightmare: I will roll a dice. If it shows 6, you will get five times your bet which can be 1 to 99 gold. How much do you want to bet?
    Roleplay or a hint to decipher the behold language?


    A Wrinkled Bonelord/Transcripts:
    I am 486486 and NOT 'Blinky' as some people called me ... before they died.
    It's 1, not 'Tibia', silly.
    Numbers are essential. They are the secret behind the scenes. If you are a master of mathematics you are a master over life and death.
    Our books are written in 469, of course you can't understand them.
    Go and wash your eyes for using this obscene number! (response to the number 0)
    The language of my kind. Superior to any other language and only to be spoken by entities with enough eyes to blink it.
    Their mages are so close to the truth. Closer then they know and closer then it's good for them.
    In our language the name of our race is not fix but a complex formula, and as such it always changes for the subjective viewer.
    Our language is beyond comprehension by your lesser beings. It heavily relies on mathemagic. Your brain is not suited for the mathemagical processing necessary to understand our language. To decipher even our most basic texts, it would need a genius that can calculate numbers within seconds in his brain.


    "Your brain is not suited for the mathemagical processing necessary to understand our language." - This might be a hint that we need some sort of program/computer to be able to decode the books due to its complexity.

    "...it would need a genius that can calculate numbers within seconds in his brain." - Someone that would fit this is Arthur Benjamin, who wrote a book on Mathemagics 1993. Link: https://www.ted.com/talks/arthur_ben...oes_mathemagic

    "In our language the name of our race is not fix but a complex formula, and as such it always changes for the subjective viewer." - I find this sentence particulary interesting. Because when we speak to A Prisoner in Mintwallin, we do get "complex formulas" and each person get a different one (1 out of 4):
    1+1=1
    1+1=13
    1+1=49
    1+1=94

    Looking in our questlog, we also see that we have not yet completed the quest.


    EDIT:

    I read a book about Beholders (I, Tyrant) which is based on Dungeons and Dragons. They use a dice-(d)-system (which I don't know how it works), example: 4d6+9. Maybe this is what NPC Knightmare was hinting about.

    The book also explain the architecture of the Beholders' lair:

    "The Secret Heart: This is the beholder's private chamber. Here, the creature rests and plots its horrific schemes. It typically contains a nest of sand or cloth bedding and the beholder's favorite pieces of sculpture."

    With this in mind, take a look at the area East of the Library (5), it is the only place with sand.
    Link: https://www.tibiawiki.com.br/images/...e_respawns.png


    This is one of the newer pictures CipSoft has released on their Facebook site;
    Link: https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f7&oe=5BB75DB6

    It wouldn't surprise me if we'll learn more about the old ones (Zathroth) and perhaps Mathemagics this summer.

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